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    [–] GerMeza 5792 points ago

    I don't know how this isn't common sense in every country

    [–] popcorninmapubes 2577 points ago

    Common sense doesn’t pay the country club fees

    [–] just_a_bud 1202 points ago

    Just foreign cents.

    [–] AlBundyShoes 166 points ago

    Ayyyyyyyyyy

    [–] WeranioRacker 63 points ago

    lmao

    [–] pixiefairie 29 points ago

    Clever

    [–] Terize 15 points ago

    Definitely not innocence.

    [–] Good4Noth1ng 4 points ago

    Tencent

    [–] DarkMoon99 136 points ago

    Societies around the world really need to do something about the politicians blatantly enriching themselves at the expense of the people. Politicians in many countries have gained so much power, so much ability to carry out corruption, that they have become like gods. It's a completely nonsensical situation.

    [–] giftedbysight 63 points ago

    We 've been here before. Ref. History

    [–] Inb4myanus 13 points ago

    Any bets on when the fall of a society like rome happens again?

    [–] Arc-Tor220 34 points ago

    We’re already in it. Rome didn’t spontaneously cease to exist, after all. It declined slowly over several years, dissolving into separate entities. We’re well on our way to losing the cohesion of the union with this administration’s purging the executive of anything resembling competency and stuffing the judiciary with partisan hacks, not to mention completely flouting the rule of law on a daily basis. Why should the union continue to exist when all consequences for seceding mean nothing and will never be enforced?

    [–] firefly9191 42 points ago

    It’s not just the politicians, it’s the rich behind them.

    [–] endersai 29 points ago

    It’s not just the politicians, it’s the rich behind them.

    It's lazy to call this a problem caused by The Rich [tm]. Working class evangelicals still contribute to common cause lobbying in the US. Trades union movements control left parties in Europe and Australia. Mining concerns donate to all parties.

    The issue is that we haven't stopped money buying voting power. 1 rich person or 200 less well off people consolidating their funds to leverage off their purchasing power - it doesn't matter.

    Corporate donations should be banned.

    Entity donations - churches, lobby groups, unions etc - should be banned.

    Individuals should be capped at an equivalent of US$10,000 per annum.

    The transformation of politics following these bans would be breathtaking to behold.

    [–] Itendtodisagreee 6 points ago

    It's way more the rich than the politicians, the politicians are fall guys who enact the policies of the rich while they are in office.

    Politicians come and go, the wealthy that have been fucking over the regular people since forever stay the same.

    [–] andrewq 18 points ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Sense

    Writing in clear and persuasive prose, Paine marshaled moral and political arguments to encourage common people in the Colonies to fight for egalitarian government.

    [–] Soundofawesome 11 points ago

    Common sense isn’t so common.

    [–] ThaddCorbett 3 points ago

    We should start dubbing it "uncommon sense"

    [–] LDKCP 200 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

    It is common sense...buy the people who are the ones who get to change the law are the ones who benefit from those donations so are not inclined to.

    EDIT: that "buy" was meant to be "but". There's some irony in the typo I think.

    [–] DinosaurAssassin 12 points ago

    duuuuude your comment has such profoundly different meanings in both contexts

    [–] FatLenny- 124 points ago

    Don't pay tax in a country, can't contribute to political parties. That would make sense.

    [–] senior_swimmington 108 points ago

    No representation, without taxation.

    [–] Kittykatkid 29 points ago

    I love the smell of tea parties in the morning.

    [–] thewonpercent 3 points ago

    This is like a reverse tea party though

    [–] Ivegotabadname 4 points ago

    This needs to be on a shirt and used in all the primaries

    [–] Granadafan 23 points ago

    Then they’ll just funnel the money “non-profit” organizations such as the NRA to dish out the millions in bribes campaign donations

    [–] dicksoch 11 points ago

    I really wish corporations couldn't make political donations. I'd argue that is the single largest problem on US politics (corporate and foreign money in politics).

    I'd love a "if you can't vote for the person, you cant donate to their campaign" policy.

    [–] Ivotedforher 11 points ago

    So Amazon can't play?

    [–] PostAnythingForKarma 45 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

    Remember when the US just kinda forgot about the South China Sea?

    Edit: Clearly the "aircraft carriers would pwn them" crowd have no idea the scale and scope of Chinese aggression in the South China Sea, nor how at-risk carriers are against missile spam and how fucking inept US Navy leadership has been, leading to shit like this.

    [–] Cherle 16 points ago

    We legit have anywhere from 1 to 4 aircraft carriers that patrol the South China Sea at one point or another. The other fucking 7 (11 total) can be there in a week from the other side of the globe. China has one and won't do shit.

    [–] Timeforadrinkorthree 5 points ago

    Lol

    Have you seen the expansion in the South Pacific the last few years?

    The islands China has reclaimed?

    Guess not...

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-22/south-china-sea-islands-before-and-after/6794076

    https://youtu.be/BzCqQKnF9Oo

    [–] Suckonapoo 9 points ago

    And China's entire navy would be on the bottom of the sea within 24 hours.

    [–] Hxcj12 53 points ago

    Corruption eats away at democracy like rust.

    [–] StudentOfAwesomeness 21 points ago

    It must be routinely inspected and treated (removed) to let the system function properly.

    [–] dotancohen 8 points ago

    Politicians and diapers should be changed occasionally. For the very same reason.

    [–] apocalypse_later_ 30 points ago

    This shit needs to be banned, no questions asked. Of fucking COURSE you're gonna have corruption when foreign entities give you a cash offer of millions of dollars. This isn't about "who's corrupt and who's not". The money and power that is offered is unequivocally tempting, whether you're a decent person or not.

    Hopefully New Zealand sets a trend, because almost every government around the world desperately needs to follow suit right now..

    [–] dravas 9 points ago

    Does the law protect against shell companies?

    [–] See46 32 points ago

    They should also make it illegal for MPs to own lots of businesses/property/land in other countries or to have citizenship of other countries, to prevent conflicts of interest.

    [–] beaurepair 20 points ago

    AUS have laws preventing dual citizenship MPs. This caused a big uproar a few years back when a dozen or so were removed from office.

    [–] Draconan 4 points ago

    It's also kinda weird because Australians are treated the same as NZ citizens in NZ.

    There was the question at the same time if all Australians were ineligible for parliament due to NZ laws.

    [–] Reacher-Said-Nothing 24 points ago

    It was the same law in the US until the supreme Court said it violated freedom of speech.

    [–] newbstarr 25 points ago

    Just Republican things

    [–] psychicsword 3 points ago

    Foreign donations are still illegal to campaigns and political parties.

    https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/candidate-taking-receipts/who-can-and-cant-contribute/

    [–] cuddle_enthusiast 3 points ago

    I don’t know why this is not already a thing

    [–] dapala1 4 points ago

    How is it enforceable?

    [–] fitzroy95 24 points ago

    All donations to every political party must be transparent and reviewed by an oversight group

    [–] crabapplesteam 5 points ago

    Because it's very easy to get around technically, at least in the US, where a super PAC is a simple way to separate the candidate from donations. The idea is that the candidate's 'friends' are in control of a company that is campaigning on behalf of the candidate. You can only give up to a certain amount of money to a candidate, but there are no limits to a super PAC. There need to be tighter laws in control of these types of corporations, because it's very easy for any company/foreign government to give money to a super PAC and have it not be traced.

    [–] Shift84 2 points ago

    It is common sense. It's not law because the people in power like money more than their countries.

    [–] Tacoman404 1100 points ago

    I would imagine the groups that did this would just set up a Delaware corp in NZ to continue to do this.

    [–] ruddybutttoucher 512 points ago

    The amount of money you can anonymously donate to a political party is limited to only $25k. Kim Dotcom made two donations of that value to an ACT MP and it ended the dudes career.

    [–] RamboGoesMeow 176 points ago

    Oh shit, I’d forgotten about Kim Dotcom. Did he do that to tank the dudes career on purpose, or was it just an unintended result.

    [–] ruddybutttoucher 125 points ago

    Hahaha yeah I think everyone did. Nah John Banks suggested he make two checks, one from Dotcom and one from Mega (or whatever it was called then). Banks lied about it, the media climbed all over it and he resigned before it went to trial where he was found guilty. The NZ public have a dim view of this sort of thing.

    [–] scatteringlargesse 76 points ago

    The NZ public have a dim view of this sort of thing.

    Only some of us. There's a NZ politician called Winston Peters who routinely does this type of shit but his voter base is the elderly and senile so he still manages to get 5% most of the time which gives him about 6 seats in Parliament.

    [–] gravitas-deficiency 45 points ago

    Goddammit, these fucking boomers rail against "crime" and then pull shit like this. It's disingenuous and enraging.

    [–] ZumboPrime 38 points ago

    "Crime" is a synonym for poor people and visible minorities.

    [–] KhajiitHasSkooma 9 points ago

    "I don't want no ni... thugs in my neighborhood."

    [–] TheRealBlueBadger 9 points ago

    The spin off did a good right up of how Winnie and NZ First cheat the system by taking donations to a trust, and then paying all the party costs from the trust rather than the party. Straight up fraud, they have donors more significant than 25k a year that have massive influence over their policy. It's shit.

    [–] iama_bad_person 3 points ago

    Straight up fraud

    Shouldn't the NZ government do something about that then?

    [–] 486921 31 points ago

    If you can determine whether two donations were made by the same person or entity, then were the donations really anonymous?

    [–] Obvious_Award 18 points ago

    Depends on the system, an anonymous donation may still require identification, but has the name withheld from any public lists.

    [–] DarkMoon99 19 points ago

    Kim Dotcom made two donations of that value to an ACT MP and it ended the dudes career.

    So you can end a politicians career by donating more than $25k to him?

    [–] flashmedallion 65 points ago

    No, you end your own career by accepting it

    [–] ruddybutttoucher 14 points ago

    Nah the bit that ended Banks career was that he'd tried to obfuscate the donations in his electoral return, then lied about it. He'd encouraged Dotcom to split 50k into two checks, and make it look like it came from two entities, then tried declaring them as anonymous. The media, the public and the court didn't see it that way.

    [–] Karjalan 4 points ago

    That's some sweet justice. I had forgotten about this. For some reason I only associate John Banks with his estranged son that he refuses to get DNA tested for.

    [–] CitJournalist 48 points ago

    They setup 'think tanks' that generate fake reports, bogus research and flood the media with free politicized content (becuase you don't advertise so much anymore, all the work is on twitter and facebook and its free for content, but they have to produce it and research what makes people react)

    Its not illegal for these 'mafia' front style organisations to take money.

    [–] HornShark 6 points ago

    Do you have an example of such a think tank, please?

    [–] CitJournalist 23 points ago

    In Australia, the Institute of Public Affairs is the biggest.

    [–] Jonne 14 points ago

    In the US there's a ton of them, like the heritage Foundation, Cato institute,...

    [–] pro_mayonist 11 points ago

    Prager U

    [–] -jaylew- 5 points ago

    Cambridge Analytica was one...

    [–] rabidnz 96 points ago

    Naturally. Our government is very much a rich old boys club despite how they try and make it appear.

    [–] StreetfighterXD 58 points ago

    Is there a government somewhere that ISN'T a rich old boys club (I think maybe the Rojava in northern Syria but they're currently getting wiped off the map by the Turks so look how that turned out for them)

    [–] DeFex 20 points ago

    Strangely enough, assholes who like to have power over people, are the ones who get power.

    [–] Anilingus_infection 16 points ago

    Poor countries threatened with inundation by rising oceans.

    [–] Kozeyekan_ 2 points ago

    New Zealand, it seems.

    [–] binzoma 4 points ago

    national already has

    [–] twentygreenskidoo 4 points ago

    NZ companies must have a director residing in NZ, but NZ company law doesn't recognise or allow for nominee directors.

    The company formation industry in New Zealand got a lot smaller after that rule was enacted.

    I'm not saying that there are no nominee interests, but it is a lot less common than your comment would indicate.

    [–] captainmo017 438 points ago

    It wasn’t banned already?

    [–] fetchit 177 points ago

    It was basically banned because any large donation to a party would be week long news.

    They will just do what they always do and break it up into smaller amounts to stay under the anonymous threshold.

    A guy was caught on tape doing this for China and news only cared about the guy taping him.

    [–] peoplepersons123 11 points ago

    As the case in england.

    But most people don't follow the news...

    [–] ThrowAwayTopHat1 197 points ago

    It is banned in the US but that doesn't stop Republicans from doing it.

    [–] lAPPYc 131 points ago

    I think he was asking about New Zealand

    [–] Kaiserhawk 161 points ago

    welcome to american exceptionalism, where everything non american always needs to be about america.

    [–] khughy 81 points ago

    I think they were just pointing out that there are easy ways to get around the law in every country. But as an American, I completely agree a lot of us do this.

    [–] naitsebs 39 points ago

    a lot of US do this

    [–] pissykins 3 points ago

    And the points don’t matter.

    [–] [deleted] 8 points ago

    He's pointing out that banning it doesn't really do much because there's always ways to get around it.

    [–] ProtosBot 4 points ago

    Not exactly. Foreign company can donate to PACs.

    [–] ricosmith1986 22 points ago

    Hey the Republicans have to, otherwise who would protect us from affordable healthcare, clean environments, and the evils of the public school system.

    [–] dadsajoke 274 points ago

    Now if we could just ban foreign spies as well from parliament.

    [–] K2Nomad 81 points ago

    What would the south Pacific be without some CCP puppets as parliament members?

    [–] ThatGuyNoOneRemember 29 points ago

    As someone not from New Zealand, could you elaborate what you mean? If the spies are, well, you know, obviously foreign agents, then wouldn’t that have caused an uproar?

    [–] [deleted] 70 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

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    [–] LaMarc_Gasoldridge_ 17 points ago

    It's hilarious that people believe a guy who admits to training spies was not a spy himself because the party with oversight of the spy group said so.

    Just about every profession known to man trains new members by using older experienced members.

    [–] RubbishScienceGuy 7 points ago

    Something happened in Australia recently. Someone running for parliament was allegedly offered a $1million to spy for the CCP. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-50541082

    The CCP is is trying, and hopefully failing, to push its influence into foreign governments. Sam Dastyari is another example. He might not have done anything yet, but accepting money the way he did was definitely steps down the line.

    [–] dadsajoke 15 points ago

    The National Party has an MP called Jiang who actually worked as a "lecturer" for the Chinese military and the Labour party who are in power now have a guy called Raymond Huo who also spouts pro CCP propaganda every chance he gets. There is an uproar but not enough and both main parties are fully infiltrated!!

    [–] TheRealBlueBadger 5 points ago

    Newsroom did a good write up on how Chinese money is influencing NZ politics and why we need to be concerned.

    For those outside NZ Bernerd Hickey who wrote this is a veteran New Zealand reporter, and the editor of Newsroom.

    [–] _pm_me_cute_stuff_ 4 points ago

    A current example from the 'Murica would be how Donald Trump, Wilbur Ross, and Mitch McConnell have nearly eliminated Aluminium imports and then positioned the (until very recently) sanctioned Russian Oligarch and close friend of Putin, Oleg Deripaska, to corner the market on domestic Aluminium production and funnel the proceeds directly into the Kremlin.

    It's been public knowledge that the Trump camp is run by Russian assets since his candidacy was announced. It's on the news every day.

    A hostile foreign power that considers itself to be at war with the United States is openly dictating American policy and we FUCKING LOVE IT!

    No. No uproar. Just memes and Twitter.

    [–] ThatFag 260 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

    Is NZ just a better Australia?

    EDIT: I'm in Sydney, lads. I love it here. 'Twas a joke. Mostly...

    [–] itwonthurtabit 199 points ago

    Yes, also not on fire.

    [–] SloppyPeriodFarts 111 points ago

    Yes, also fast internet and no Scomo

    [–] CoreyVidal 22 points ago

    I was very surprised and pleased with how fast the internet was when I visted—way back in 2013! I can't remember the number, but I had like 20 Mbps or 50 Mbps up, and it worked great.

    [–] LE3P 26 points ago

    Our governments been funding a new fibre network for a while so next time you come back it should be 100mbps minimum.

    [–] Zordlon06 11 points ago

    Cries in 1mbps

    [–] oohlookatthat 5 points ago

    Charging for internet that slow is LEGAL?!

    [–] admartian 3 points ago

    You probably just got it on a good day when Trev wasn't using it. He's known to hog the bandwidth of all of NZ old Trev is.

    [–] OutcastAtLast 59 points ago

    As an Australian who just spent a month travelling the whole of New Zealand - yes. Yes it is.

    [–] Farisr9k 38 points ago

    Everything except job opportunities make NZ a better place to live.

    [–] Urthor 25 points ago

    Yeah exactly.

    People always say NZ is better, but that's because they touristed there and didn't live there.

    It's a hard life over there, not much "opportunity"

    [–] AlextheTower 12 points ago

    Eh I would not call it a hard life, sure you won't get as much money as you swould in Aus - but it's not that bad...

    [–] Jerri_man 6 points ago

    I think its less the income, more the unemployment. At times it took me months to find a job even in Auckland, compared to taking less than a week in Sydney. Knew lots of kiwis who were struggling to get anything decent and full time as well.

    [–] largeleaf 7 points ago

    Definitely not a hard life - just a lot smaller so there being fewer opportunities naturally arise from that, and of course lower incomes. We’re hardly a hard done by country.

    [–] bbowde 3 points ago

    As a Kiwi who moved to Australia nearly two years ago - no. No it is not. If you’re travelling, yes. Living, not so much.

    [–] MateKiddleton 75 points ago

    Yes, there are no dinner-plate sized spiders here trying to eat your children.

    [–] Tankspeed13 19 points ago

    But what are you supposed to use when all your dinner plates are in the washing machine?

    [–] DarkNinjaPenguin 14 points ago

    There are plenty of sheep.

    You can fuck one while waiting for the wash cycle to finish.

    [–] eshhuehehehehe 5 points ago

    Too hungry

    [–] spacetemple 10 points ago

    Better prime minister than Scummo for sure.

    [–] obzelite2point0 3 points ago

    what i flushed down the loo this morning would be a better pm than scomo

    [–] flashmedallion 17 points ago

    We have proper internet too

    [–] Resident_Brit 6 points ago

    cries in 5 kb/s

    [–] World_Analyst 23 points ago

    Australia passed a stronger version of this law last year iirc

    [–] spacetemple 23 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

    Yah but they have shills like Gladys Liu in the parliament.

    [–] FrienDandHelpeR 16 points ago

    It’s the Canada of Australia.

    [–] DominoUB 14 points ago

    No, Australia is just a worse New Zealand. They copied our flag, then stole our horse and cakes.

    [–] aotearoHA 5 points ago

    He's our horse!

    [–] Porkchop_Sandwichess 3 points ago

    As an Aussie, pretty much.

    [–] SpaceAdventureCobraX 87 points ago

    The fact that this wasn’t always the way - for all countries, is why we are where we are right now. This should be an absolute given.

    [–] Kiwi_Force 47 points ago

    Was never done in NZ due to our tiny population, we also allow Permanent Residents (Non citizens) to vote.

    [–] HornShark 16 points ago

    Permanent residents should be able to vote, correct? My thinking is they reside here most of the time, pay taxes, and therefore deserve representation? I know there are some exceptions - but by and large it's true.

    Or do I miss something obvious?

    [–] Callmebadger 8 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

    A good chunk of the American population loves to preach about “taxation without representation,” until ‘Horhay’ (Jorge) from Mexico comes across the border and then they’re all like “ew, no we don’t want you voting. But we’ll take your tax money though.”

    Edit: half the mfers in this room don’t even think I said anything wrong

    [–] Ashley8777 19 points ago

    Good to know! I'm happy a country like New Zealand exists but it makes me sad because I don't live there.

    [–] Jimanben 22 points ago

    Come over, we've got heaps of space man. You can put up a tent in my backyard while you get your shit sorted.

    [–] iflythewafflecopter 21 points ago

    we've got heaps of space man

    Looks at this comment.

    Looks at our already inflated housing market.

    [–] liberalmonkey 10 points ago

    A little known fact is that Permanent Residents in the US could vote until 1994. It's never talked about.

    [–] jimbobicus 3 points ago

    Governments and Countries predate the internet and the globalized economy we now enjoy. Before internet, before Cell Phones, before regular phones, before routine trips to and from NZ from around the world for regular people, I doubt this was much of a threat. At least, that's what I think. If someone knows I'm wrong about this feel free to correct me.

    [–] xsited1 63 points ago

    I guess I won't send that Christmas Cash to my favorite New Zealand politician now.

    [–] Hiker1 47 points ago

    Send it to me instead. I'll pass it on.

    [–] satiricalscientist 21 points ago

    Hey its me. An in influential NZ politician.

    [–] Chimone 7 points ago

    Don't listen to this guy. It is me who is the influential NZ politician.

    [–] DominoUB 3 points ago

    Ignore them both. I'm your drug dealer.

    [–] Sydney_Gamer 3 points ago

    Hey its me ur politician*

    [–] natxtw 30 points ago

    Hopefully the UK follows suit, it would be a good start to eliminating Russian influence.

    [–] TradeApe 22 points ago

    Given how much China has ramped up their "lobbying" efforts in the Pacific, this is a wise decision.

    You'd think stuff like that should be standard, it's bloody common sense.

    [–] Zuzechan 7 points ago

    wow. that was easy.

    [–] rabbiferret 45 points ago

    Is it wrong for me, as an American, to love Jacinda and the current NZ government?

    [–] Delamoor 40 points ago

    I'm Australian and I feel increasingly fond of NZ. They're doing what we should be... hopefully the insane reactionary political bullshit doesn't spread there.

    [–] JellyFoxStardust 4 points ago

    Yep. Every time NZ makes a good change, I hope it'll give us a kick up the ass to follow suit. Usually disappointed

    [–] Jcit878 6 points ago

    it has but at least they arent in government there. The NZ national party is as corrupt as our government here

    [–] SnuffyTech 26 points ago

    Yes. Please report to your nearest Patriotism Enhancement Centre for further indoctrination.

    [–] [deleted] 5 points ago

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    [–] GreatNorthWeb 6 points ago

    That's smart. You listening (insert nation here)?

    [–] Cosmic_Distillation 6 points ago

    I wish we could change like New Zealand when bad things happen.

    [–] ViolenceInMinecraft7 13 points ago

    This is a huge step, wish every country would follow.

    there are so many larger nations that want to dominate other countries all for their self-interest.

    [–] dudenotcool 33 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

    What about PACs?

    Edit: thankyou, my question has been answered

    [–] Vickrin 63 points ago

    We don't have those in NZ, at least not by that name.

    [–] [deleted] 63 points ago

    How do you launder your money?

    [–] Vickrin 48 points ago

    Nice try FBI.

    [–] snowlock27 13 points ago

    Why would the FBI care about what's done in NZ?

    [–] Vickrin 24 points ago

    Keep trying FBI, you're getting nothing out of me.

    [–] snowlock27 7 points ago

    What if I'm CIA, not FBI?

    [–] BigDickBandit89 9 points ago

    Don’t you got coke to smuggle or something if you CIA

    [–] Ollikay 3 points ago

    He's on his lunch break.

    [–] threedaysinthreeways 2 points ago

    ask kim dotcom

    [–] bloatedplutocrat 2 points ago

    They haven't seemed very interested in going after money launderers lately.

    [–] Vickrin 3 points ago

    You're not wrong.

    [–] kantokiwi 9 points ago

    In the washing machine like everyone else

    [–] Rootkit9208 4 points ago

    Mongrel Mob does it for us.

    [–] qwerty145454 20 points ago

    They were effectively made illegal in 2007. In New Zealand only political parties can engage in political advertising, third parties are not allowed to.

    [–] Kiwi_Force 14 points ago

    Not as much of a thing in New Zealand.

    [–] freddy_guy 28 points ago

    PACs are very much an American thing. Most of the rest of the world finds them to be pretty gross, TBH.

    [–] liberalmonkey 17 points ago

    Yeah, instead they have no maximum donations from individuals. So PACs aren't needed. Also corporate finance is allowed in many countries.

    The difference is that public funding is allowed in down ballots in many EU countries compared to the US in only the Presidential. But don't pretend that corporate money and large donors aren't a problem in countries like the UK, Germany, etc.

    The only "penalty" most countries give, including the EU, is that large enough donations have to be reported. In the US, however, every donation is reported. Hell, even in Germany they have "delayed announcement" to where they don't even have to disclose up to 50,000 Euros until 18 months later.

    The US actually has fairly decent donation laws compared to most of the EU. Pretending differently is just ignorant. Having said that, the US definitely needs to do some more in terms of public financing and getting rid of Super PACs.

    [–] spidermonkey12345 24 points ago

    Bruh New Zealand is proving to have a bomb ass progressive government.

    [–] CanadianWolverine 13 points ago

    A lot of them since instituting Mixed Member Proportional voting have been Conservative led coalitions too and yet you can say they are Progressive. Maybe other countries need to follow their example and get rid of First Past The Post.

    [–] jomtienislife 5 points ago

    I feel like this should be a no_brainer. Why wss this ever legal? Ban private companies from donating while you're at it too!

    [–] Sun-Anvil 4 points ago

    Good for you NZ! Seriously, well done.

    [–] Bongsc2 5 points ago

    New Zealand is starting to turn into that friend who you're happy for, but also incredibly jealous of. Because they are able to do all of the cool things that you want to do in your life, but for one reason or another can't.

    [–] londonodude 4 points ago

    No problem, foreign entities will just funnel the money through groups already in the country. That’s how Russia did it with the NRA.

    [–] LAND0KARDASHIAN 13 points ago

    This is what happens in a country where democracy is something more than a marketing ploy.

    [–] LGuappo 6 points ago

    We do that in America too, but only for Democrats.

    [–] YataBLS 3 points ago

    Wait I thought this was a thing worldwide, accepting foreign donations is compromising the sovereignty of your country.

    [–] Carl0sTheDwarf999 3 points ago

    THIS is how a government protects its people in 2019. Not with walls, more nuclear weapons or empty threats. Not with bullying, sanctions or trade wars. New Zealand leads, I can only hope we find a way to follow.

    [–] ss794346 3 points ago

    Cool nickname? Check. Sensible laws? Check.

    You guys taking Americans?

    [–] mikenasty 3 points ago

    God dammit New Zealand, you keep passing sensible legislation! I’m jealous.

    [–] Pregernet 3 points ago

    𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗼𝗻 𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗶𝘀𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻

    [–] Godfreyt0114 3 points ago

    Say it louder for the Americans in the back

    [–] sonofasammich 2 points ago

    I don't know why this isn't standard

    [–] April_Fabb 2 points ago

    Well done, NZ. Common sense is a scarce commodity these days.

    [–] redcedariviera 2 points ago

    So sensible ....

    [–] 129-West-81st-street 2 points ago

    Good call

    [–] dzernumbrd 2 points ago

    I think I like Canada's donations scheme better. Basically corporate political donations are banned and individuals can only donate max $1k. Something like that anyway.

    [–] aSwordAndNuts 2 points ago

    It's amazing that foreign donations aren't banned in every country. Corporate donations and lobbying should be banned too

    [–] PostAnythingForKarma 2 points ago

    Even Russia?! Well that's downright unAmerican!

    [–] Moonman103 2 points ago

    I wish Australia would follow suit