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    [–] What toxic femininity is dakru 1 points ago in PurplePillDebate

    There are hardly any reason to cry except to communicate to others. Crying is always a call for help, kids and adults. Crying is always to emphasize on yourself, to recenter the attention on you, to make your problems look bigger. This is not exactly an objective and stoic way of communicating, it's biased, deceptive and manipulative, it's meant to be that way, by definition.

    It's probably not just about that (I think there are also plausible links to stress relief) but yes, communicating distress and getting help are very likely part of it (in terms of why it would arise, evolutionarily and developmentally). It's not clear why that's "biased, deceptive, and manipulative" though. If someone simply stated "I'm troubled right now, I'd like some support and comfort", rather than showing it with tears, would that be better?

    It's certainly not stoic, because stoicism would involve not being troubled and not needing/wanting help (or not letting it show), which would also mean not asking for it verbally either.

    I don't know what you mean by it not being "objective". That's usually a word we use for a source of knowledge, and I'm not sure how it applies here. Do you mean it's indirect? Perhaps somewhat, but the meaning (of what's being communicated with crying) is pretty transparent when you think about it.

    [–] Winnipeg hotel cancels white nationalist's conference room reservation dakru 1 points ago in CanadaPolitics

    But it's not working to enrich someone else (not that I think this is quite a fair description of employment). And considering how common it is to be self-employed, it's not that out of reach for the average person. It doesn't require being one of the few people who can own a major stake in a factory; it means owning a small shop, or even just having a trade and owning a vehicle and some tools.

    [–] Winnipeg hotel cancels white nationalist's conference room reservation dakru 1 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago) in CanadaPolitics

    Capitalism: What happens when people object to working to enrich those lucky enough to be born with capital. Only violent repression can result.

    Tangential to your main point but it's relevant that within capitalism, working for someone else who owns capital is not the only option. Self-employment is quite common and (although not many do it) people do have the option to live in communes or set up worker-owned cooperatives.

    [–] What toxic femininity is dakru 1 points ago in PurplePillDebate

    That's strange. Removed.

    [–] What toxic femininity is dakru 2 points ago in PurplePillDebate

    But these are still facts: it is your subconscious who took the decision that making you crying was the best reaction to the given situation. [...] And this is not a body response to a stimuli, it's the result of a situation analysis from your brain, it's a decision you've made unconsciously.

    As I understand it, women have more shallow tear ducts on average, meaning that physically the threshold for what will make them cry is just lower.

    I think it's also quite plausible that women are subconsciously more likely to cry because they've experienced a less negative response than they'd have received if they were a man (the response is more likely to be an attempt to comfort rather than revulsion and "suck it up") but I don't think that describing that as subconsciously trying to "manipulate" people is quite accurate.

    [–] Two months ago, Bitcoin split into two major currencies: Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash. /r/bitcoin and /r/btc have been up at arms ever since. dakru 1 points ago in SubredditDrama

    Without the government? I don't think we're entertaining the possibility of eliminating the government and allowing corporations to function as a government and jail people. We're discussing libertarianism, not anarcho-capitalism.

    [–] Carleton students raise awareness for violence against men dakru 2 points ago in CanadaPolitics

    To be clear, my remarks aimed at your comment. My point is simply that MRA shouldn't claim that the problem is equal.

    Did you make a typo and forget "are not"?

    [–] Two months ago, Bitcoin split into two major currencies: Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash. /r/bitcoin and /r/btc have been up at arms ever since. dakru -8 points ago in SubredditDrama

    You think the war on drugs had no corporate input? William Hurst pulled strings and printed propaganda and paid bribes to outlaw weed so he could sell fucking rope.

    Wouldn't that just be an example of my final sentence? Much more evil resulted from that corporation due to government power being used. The corporation itself couldn't have put anyone in jail.

    [–] Carleton students raise awareness for violence against men dakru 3 points ago in CanadaPolitics

    (Also paging /u/Celda)

    A while ago I took a look at some studies on suicide and suicide attempts. (Sources here, section 1.2.) A study from the UK found that the percentage of women who'd attempted suicide was 1.6x higher than the percentage of men (no double counting possible here). A study from Canada found that women were 1.5x more likely to be hospitalized for suicide attempts (this could possibly be affected by double counting). And then a study from the U.S. found that women were no more likely to attempt (but were more likely to have suicidal thoughts).

    So overall the balance of probabilities is that women attempt somewhat more, but not far more.

    [–] Carleton students raise awareness for violence against men dakru 3 points ago in CanadaPolitics

    Not that I know of. Unfortunately the volume of research is just so much bigger in the U.S.

    [–] Carleton students raise awareness for violence against men dakru 5 points ago in CanadaPolitics

    And this is why men's movements lose support. They don't simply say that men can sometimes be victims of serious violence; they use the disingenuous argument that women are equal perpetrators.

    I included the statistics on injury rates too though. I don't see what the problem is.

    [–] Carleton students raise awareness for violence against men dakru 4 points ago in CanadaPolitics

    I am saying that reducing domestic violence to a "protect the women" view is a very narrow perspective on domestic violence that doesn't do the issue justice.

    I don't think we're even on the same page here. What I'm talking about is not domestic violence awareness (as you implied in your previous post) or reducing domestic violence (as you imply in this post). It's the focus on "violence against women" as fundamentally special and worse (extra heinous and extra horrific) than violence against men.

    I'm not sure where this misunderstanding arose, but this is not what I'm saying.

    [–] Two months ago, Bitcoin split into two major currencies: Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash. /r/bitcoin and /r/btc have been up at arms ever since. dakru 5 points ago in SubredditDrama

    I'm not a hardcore libertarian by any stretch of the imagination but I do have libertarian sympathies. I can mention a few principles that probably won't change your mind but might help you understand where libertarians are coming form.

    It's less about trusting corporations and more about distrusting government, especially given that the government has a lot more power and is a lot harder to escape. Think of something like the war on drugs; that's a government endeavour that's caused more harm than anything I can think of that a corporation has ever done, and that's not even getting into the government endeavour of war. Also, another key point is that a lot of the excesses of corporate power are built on government power, whether by getting a monopoly, getting tax breaks, or other preferential treatment.

    [–] Maybe rape culture is a thing? dakru 1 points ago in PurplePillDebate

    I was just explaining that just because the term was originally coined for the West doesn't mean that people can't think that it applies more to other places in the world.

    However personally I wouldn't use the term "rape culture" to describe the Western world at all. (At least overall. There can be sub-cultures that the term applies to.)

    [–] Carleton students raise awareness for violence against men dakru 11 points ago in CanadaPolitics

    I didn't just present the statistic showing equal likelihood; I also presented the statistic showing the difference in likelihood of injury, which I think gives adequate context. Although of course more detail is always good, so thanks for posting.

    [–] Carleton students raise awareness for violence against men dakru 19 points ago in CanadaPolitics

    Women's physical strength disadvantage is a valid point, but I really do think that the extent to which we care more about violence against women (in general, not just referring to domestic violence) is not proportional to the physical strength disadvantage that women have.

    Let's take domestic violence as an example. The statistics I linked have rates of domestic violence being the same, but women are more likely to get injured: 40% injury rate vs. 24%. From this, men are 37.5% of DV injuries. Would you say that our current concern about domestic violence is 37.5% targeted towards male victims and 62.5% targeted towards female victims? I wouldn't. I'd guess it's more like 5% and 95% or 10% and 90%. Obviously it's hard to come up with specific numbers but I think that does demonstrate my point.

    Another clear example comes from how we treat men's and women's deaths. A 2000 study on vehicular homicide from the U.S. found that drivers who kill women receive 56% longer sentences than drivers who kill men. If women's injuries were 56% more severe than maybe this would be justified, but that's not the case, since it's vehicular homicide and all of the victims had the same injuries, in the sense that it was enough to kill them. So women's physical strength disadvantage doesn't justify that.

    [–] Carleton students raise awareness for violence against men dakru 8 points ago in CanadaPolitics

    That is because, historically, domestic violence wasn't considered criminal - it was considered to be a man's right to be able to "punish" his wife.

    I'm not sure I understand. Are you suggesting that it's acceptable for people in the present day to treat violence against women as special (extra heinous and horrific compared to violence against men) because until the mid 1800s (according to Wikipedia) domestic violence was legal?

    Domestic violence awareness does come from a traditionalist view of gender, because it was a traditionalist view of gender that caused the problem.

    I didn't say that domestic violence awareness comes from a traditionalist view of gender. I said that treating violence as being extra special (extra heinous and extra horrific) when it happens to women compared to when it happens to men is a very traditionalist view.

    In fact, there was a lot of pushback by male politicians to even consider a woman of being "worthy" of protection from an abusive husband (church's and society's views on roles in marriage and all).

    Would you say their treatment of female victims of domestic violence was better, worse, or about the same as their treatment of male victims of domestic violence? What do you think it's like today?

    [–] Maybe rape culture is a thing? dakru 1 points ago in PurplePillDebate

    If you think we in the west live in a rape culture then feel free to say so. This is just other people who disagree that it applies in the west, and they think the term is more applicable elsewhere.

    [–] Carleton students raise awareness for violence against men dakru 61 points ago in CanadaPolitics

    The focus on "violence against women" as something special (fundamentally separate from, and worse than, "regular violence", i.e. against men) has always struck me as being a distinctly traditionalist view of gender, despite being common among progressives. It's the old protective attitude towards women, and I'm happy to see people challenging that view.

    And although domestic violence is just one type of violence and to get the full picture of gender we'd have to look at other types of violence too (e.g. women more likely to experience sexual assault, men more likely to experience stranger violence or have a weapon used against them), for domestic violence specifically men and women are equally as likely to be victims (4%), although female victims have a higher injury rate (40%) than male victims (24%):

    Equal proportions of men and women with current or former spouses or partners reported being victims of spousal violence (4% each). Both sexes experienced similar declines in spousal violence since 2004.

    [...]

    Just under one-third (31%) of spousal violence victims reported sustaining physical injuries such as bruises, cuts or broken bones as a result of spousal violence, with women (40%) more likely than men (24%) to report such injuries in the previous five years. Overall, these proportions have remained steady over the past decade. [http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/160121/dq160121b-eng.htm]

    [–] [All] What is freedom? dakru 5 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    Islam does not permit you to beat your wife.

    I'm certainly not well versed on the doctrines of Islam, or any other religion really. But Wikipedia says that it's very much disputed:

    The relationship between Islam and domestic violence is disputed. Even among Muslims, the uses and interpretations of sharia, the moral code and religious law of Islam, lack consensus.

    Conservative[citation needed] interpretations of Surah An-Nisa, 34 in the Qur'an regarding marital relationships find that hitting a woman is allowed. Other interpretations of the verse claim it does not support hitting a woman, but separating from her. Variations in interpretation are due to different schools of Islamic jurisprudence, histories and politics of religious institutions, conversions, reforms, and education.[1]

    Domestic violence among the Muslim community is considered a complicated humans right issue due to varying legal remedies for women by the nations in which they live, the extent to which they have support or opportunities to divorce their husbands, cultural stigma to hide evidence of abuse, and inability to have abuse recognized by police or the judicial system in some Muslim nations. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_domestic_violence]

    [–] Why is religion associated with being right wing? dakru 2 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    The straightforward meaning of "right" and "left" in actual speech is that which restricts non-traditional lifestyle choices and the organization of labor, and that which permits it, respectively.

    I don't think this is any more accurate at really distinguishing the left and the right than OP's statement that "The core concept of 'The right wing' is economic freedoms and less government intervention in economics".

    [–] Why is religion associated with being right wing? dakru 3 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    Rightism is essentially order, and the main western religion, Christianity, was originally a very ordered and hierarchical institution. That's the origin of the association.

    Like OP's statement that the right is defined by economic freedom, I think this is a really big oversimplification. The principle of order describes many on the right, but it leaves many out too, particularly the group of libertarians, minarchists, and anarcho-capitalists.

    [–] Why is religion associated with being right wing? dakru 3 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    The core concept of "The right wing" is economic freedoms and less government intervention in economics. The only reason a religion would be right or left wing is there economic laws.

    The left-right spectrum is a lot more complicated than that. Many ideologies on the right (like fascism) include a lot of government intervention in the economy and many ideologies on the far left (like left anarchism) don't even have a government to do any intervening.

    [–] Maybe rape culture is a thing? dakru 8 points ago in PurplePillDebate

    Rape culture was a term coined to talk about victim blaming in The United States, it has nothing to do with The Middle East or Africa.

    That might be the reason the term was coined, but it doesn't mean that people can't decide that they think it applies more to other places in the world.

    [–] The IPQ dakru 4 points ago in FeMRADebates

    Or they pick one version of the Identity (Muslims!) but ignore another version (Christians!) even though both play Identity Politics, and I would argue that Christians are winning the fuck out of everything. They don't even pay taxes! Odd who we focus on.

    What do you mean that Christians don't pay taxes? Are you referring to churches? If so, wouldn't the same apply to mosques?