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    [–] We’re saying Merry Christmas again 2DeadMoose 7 points ago in The_Mueller

    Keep laughing, because it’s still coming 👌

    When’s Hillary going down???

    [–] We’re saying Merry Christmas again 2DeadMoose 8 points ago in The_Mueller

    I’ve personally been enjoying the idea of Manafort slowly withering in solitary.

    [–] Bruh 2DeadMoose 5 points ago in funny

    Lol, bro.

    You are the group think. Look at yourself.

    [–] Bruh 2DeadMoose 4 points ago in funny

    You categorized yourself, fella.

    [–] Bruh 2DeadMoose 4 points ago in funny

    I fucking knew you were a Redcap, lmfao.

    [–] This bumper sticker outside of the movie theater 2DeadMoose -1 points ago in mildlyinteresting

    If you know anything about the first past the post and winner take all election systems that we have, you would realize how much of a throwaway a third party vote is until we address those issues.

    [–] Am I a socialist? 2DeadMoose 2 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    state is socialism.

    [–] Am I a socialist? 2DeadMoose 1 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    No.

    State capitalism is a system in which the state undertakes commercial (i.e. for-profit) economic activity and the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned business enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, wage labor and centralized management), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies.

    Socialism is worker owned and managed means of production and distribution and the displacement of capitalism altogether.

    The only way state capitalism and socialism can be compared is if you’re Lenin and you’re trying to convince the workers that the bureaucrats being their new bosses is fine because “the people have faith in the government, and that’s pretty much the same as democratic ownership, right guyz?”

    The two could not be more different.

    Also —

    What does it have to do with workers

    Just lmfao. Lit-er-a-lly everything.

    [–] Am I a socialist? 2DeadMoose 2 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    No, they do not. State capitalism is not socialism. Rule via bureaucratic elite and singular edict is not a government or economy of the workers.

    [–] Am I a socialist? 2DeadMoose 2 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    It depends on how direct —

    IMO, you still need a government and officials to hold the jobs within it, but those jobs are much more firmly within the hands of the people than in a traditional representative democracy.

    Semi-direct democracies in which representatives administer day-to-day governance, but the citizens remain the sovereign, allow for three forms of popular action: referendum (plebiscite), initiative, and recall. The first two forms—referendums and initiatives—are examples of direct legislation.

    [–] Am I a socialist? 2DeadMoose 2 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    I’m not going to continue this discussion if you’re just going to gloss over my entire argument in favor of whatever disingenuous rebuttal this is trying to be.

    [–] Am I a socialist? 2DeadMoose 1 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    Bureaucracy and dictatorship are not socialism.

    [–] Am I a socialist? 2DeadMoose 1 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    What problems specifically?

    [–] Am I a socialist? 2DeadMoose 5 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    Not sure how this is an argument against democracy rather than a condemnation of 19th century ideology and values.

    [–] Am I a socialist? 2DeadMoose 6 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    Direct democracy vs representative democracy.

    [–] Am I a socialist? 2DeadMoose 1 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    Explain to me how workers conduct collective management of economic institutions without democracy.

    Even Marx wrote that “the first step in the revolution by the working class, is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class, to win the battle for democracy”.

    In Principles of Communism, in response to the question "What will be the course of this revolution?", Engels wrote — “Above all, it will establish a democratic constitution, and through this, the direct or indirect dominance of the proletariat.” Direct democracy or representative democracy.

    Either way, your statement that the inextricable link between democracy and socialism is “absurd” and “based on nothing” appears to be just that.

    [–] Am I a socialist? 2DeadMoose 6 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    Collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution must necessarily be democratic.

    Authoritarian “socialism” is just state capitalism.

    [–] Sir Patrick Stewart eats ice cream like a pro! 2DeadMoose 9 points ago in gifs

    Thought you were serious until the implication that Trump has ever not been a humiliating mess of awkward.

    [–] Am I a socialist? 2DeadMoose 6 points ago in CapitalismVSocialism

    Sounds socialist-y until the end. Socialism is democracy, and democracy is rule by the people, not politicians.