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    [–] The Mormon Confessional, part 2. Is more censorship at /r/mormon to be the norm? [deep sigh] AnyAdvantage 1 points ago in mormon

    I have only had one interaction with you here https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/8f81un/_/dy2pgry

    Which can basically read as "no you're wrong lol fuck you".

    You do not come across as someone who wants to have a civil conversation.

    [–] Most Mormons still believe the priesthood/temple ban was God’s will, survey shows AnyAdvantage 23 points ago in latterdaysaints

    Remember that it wasn't just a priesthood ban. It was a priesthood and ordinances required for exaltation ban.

    [–] Exmormon here with a question about transgenderism. Not hostile AT ALL, just wondering about active members take on it! AnyAdvantage 6 points ago in latterdaysaints

    If it was, the church wouldn’t be against it.

    I don't think this position (the church being against something therefor its wrong) is a good standing to take, historically speaking.

    [–] The Book of Mormon is True? AnyAdvantage 0 points ago in latterdaysaints

    I think this is too rigid a definition to hold up to scrutiny

    If we have to walk by faith then I walk by faith. That is the definition that Joseph Smith himself gave and that's the one I stick to.

    [–] The Book of Mormon is True? AnyAdvantage -3 points ago * (lasted edited 13 days ago) in latterdaysaints

    Its scripture from God instead of the work of Men.

    That it is an actual translation of actual golden plates by Joseph Smth and is record of the actual people from the pages of the book.

    [–] It seems like God didn't curse black people. AnyAdvantage 2 points ago in latterdaysaints

    The curse was one thing, and was completed: "have I cursed". The mark was a separate thing to happen in the future: "I will set". This is right after the Amlicites put a mark on themselves.

    Thanks. I can see how it can be interpreted that way in that the mark that they placed upon their heads can be seen as a similar principle to what The Lord caused to come upon the Lamanites but this isn't when the skin of blackness came upon the Lamanites. Alma draws a parallel but the Lamanites were already cursed with, among other things, a skin of blackness. The Amlicites chose to take upon themselves the same curse.

    The Amlicites didn't actually get the lamanites skin of blackness doesn't take away that the lamanites almost 600 years earlier actually received a skin of blackness both as a curse and as a sign of disfavor.

    [–] It seems like God didn't curse black people. AnyAdvantage 11 points ago in latterdaysaints

    The Lamanites are cursed. In 2 Nephi 5:20, they were cursed by being cut off from the presence of the Lord. This seems to be the only explicit punishment listed for the curse.

    The curse doesn't end until verse 21.

    [–] TIL Gnomes are so short that they have to stand on the seat when using the Champion's Treadblade AnyAdvantage 19 points ago in wow

    Gnomes have to swim when in the pools underneath Uldum at the Obelisk of the Moon. All other races can walk in those shallow pools.

    [–] Do some members of the church believe that the earth is only 6,000 years old? AnyAdvantage 4 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago) in latterdaysaints

    Egypt? Look at the recent Sunday School Lesson 18 (just last week for us). Jericho is also around 10000 BC and its still there.

    The transition into Joshua and the rest of the old testament is very special to me because its when the myths and stories and actual history start to mingle.

    [–] Do some members of the church believe that the earth is only 6,000 years old? AnyAdvantage 6 points ago in latterdaysaints

    It fits perfectly as long as you don't take that part about physical death not existing before Adam and Eve and the need for the atonement to overcome such death too literally.

    [–] How has your ward used the Gospel Topics Essays? AnyAdvantage 4 points ago in mormon

    I incorporated a lot of the Polygamy essay into my lessons last year when teaching Sunday School.

    [–] TBM here. I'm not a Cultural Mormon. Tell me what cultural things in the church hurt/help Mormonism and society in general. AnyAdvantage 3 points ago in mormon

    This will change just as polygamy and black and the priesthood but will be behind the rest of the world as always

    It will only change if its existence is threatened like it happened with polygamy and race ban. It is very possible that its position and discrimination against homosexuals could cause the church to become vulnerable in the same way that it became vulnerable because of its position on polygamy back then.

    If its existence is threatened, a revelation will be given and a change will occur. Until then, life goes on as normal.

    [–] TBM here. I'm not a Cultural Mormon. Tell me what cultural things in the church hurt/help Mormonism and society in general. AnyAdvantage 2 points ago in mormon

    The mall never really bothered me even when I was a hardcore believer and it still doesn't bother now that I'm just a cultural Mormon.

    The church exists (among other things) to perpetuate its existence. That is essentially the purpose of any charitable organization. You could argue that "charity" is perhaps not the main purpose of the church (from an exmo perspective) but it can't be denied that it also serves that purpose.

    The mall was a shift in assets. Its no secret that the church has a lot of money in cash. It just converted the cash into another asset. Except that instead of just earning 0.5% a year on that cash, it had a better plan.

    It got a way to generate more money and create how many jobs? How much in sales tax revenue for the state?

    I'm not from Utah but I have family that lives there and every time I visit I have absolutely no desire to visit City Creek. It's a bit of a shitty mall in my opinion. I'd rather drive down to my local mall instead.

    [–] Left Mormonism and found Christ AMA AnyAdvantage -1 points ago in Christianity

    They do believe Jesus is God. They just believe that Jesus and Jesus's father are separate beings but both are God. They believe both of them, together with the Holy ghost form one God.

    [–] What does the Church mean by "disavow?" AnyAdvantage 2 points ago in mormon

    If Brigham was the one to introduce polygamy instead of JS, it guarantee that the church would have already disavowed it like they did the priesthood ban.

    [–] What does the Church mean by "disavow?" AnyAdvantage 1 points ago in mormon

    This is absolutely not true. The only thing that the church won't do is say anything bad or negative about Joseph Smith. It will throw the prophets under the bus for any doctrine that it deems to be wrong in the future.

    [–] How you can know that any apology from the LDS church is a fake. AnyAdvantage 2 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago) in mormon

    No, unfortunately you are mistaken. Polygamy was illegal everywhere Joseph lived.

    D&C 132 as we have it today wasn't published for at least 7 years after Joseph Died.

    Joseph and everyone who was practicing polygamy publicly denied it at every opportunity. People were excommunicated from the church for attempting to make the practice public. In fact, exposing the secrecy of polygamy (including polyandry) was set in motion the catalyst that lead to Joseph's death.

    [–] How you can know that any apology from the LDS church is a fake. AnyAdvantage 1 points ago in mormon

    If I understand correctly, what you are describing came after Brigham Young made the practice public after D&C 132 was first published in 1852.

    [–] Was Emma Smith aware of the polyandrous marriages at all? AnyAdvantage 2 points ago in mormon

    There's still a question about how many polyandrous wives she even knew about.

    I suppose that is what we will never really know.

    I'm just still not sure why it matters if she knew about 10% or 100%

    I think that a lot of members, when discussing this topic, points to Emma's acceptance as some sort of validation. Almost as if to say, "See, Emma lived it and she accepted it, so you can too".

    Possibly related to the Emma "makover" that happened in the church in the 70s which leads to today's Emma, the great RS leader and total supporter of JS rather than the Emma, anti-Brighamite mormon.

    But to me it seems that she "accepted" something that she didn't really know the entire context of.