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    [–] r/conservative decides that instead of voting to promote their ideas of government they’ll use guns BoinkBoinkEtAliae 1 points ago in TopMindsOfReddit

    No, I said they would be in for a big surprise if it ever did happen. I never said anywhere that I believe it was an imminent possibility.

    [–] r/conservative decides that instead of voting to promote their ideas of government they’ll use guns BoinkBoinkEtAliae 2 points ago in TopMindsOfReddit

    That was the war on terror that we lost. We overthrew the country in like two days, but the Bush Administration botched the subsequent handling of the occupation and just created even more terrorists.

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae 1 points ago in MurderedByWords

    I actually have PTSD which makes it difficult to concentrate and retain information

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae -1 points ago in MurderedByWords

    I know there's nothing yet conclusively proving a vegan diet is safe for children. I know a well balanced non-vegan diet is generally safe for children barring factors like allergies or unsafe added chemicals. I don't need to prove either of those things because they are objective facts.

    If you'd like to discuss it by providing something that does have data on vegan diets providing complete nutrition for children (including babies), by all means provide it. But I'm not interested in fluff articles or corporate "science."

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae 1 points ago in MurderedByWords

    It's not moving goalposts to point out the research is inconclusive and there's no definite link. If you say understanding the nuance and limitations of the study used to prove your assertion- that doesn't actually conclusively prove your assertion and says so right in the article analysis and paper itself- is "moving goal posts" then you are not having this discussion i good faith, and you're simply trying to "prove" yourself right in an intellectually dishonest way.

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae 1 points ago in MurderedByWords

    I didn't make that claim either. You appear to be confused.

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae 1 points ago in MurderedByWords

    Weird, I guess I misread your comment, I thought it said you weren't middle class and still a vegan, therefore you were a perfect example.

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae 2 points ago in MurderedByWords

    So it's not conclusive evidence. Glad we agree.

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae 4 points ago in MurderedByWords

    I'm not the one who asserted it was safe children, that was you.

    And I said it was annoying when vegans tell you that it is, because usually they have nothing to credible to back it up. Exactly like you did. You already proved my point for me.

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae 2 points ago in MurderedByWords

    And again, what you've linked is a correlation, not anything proving a direct causation.

    Directly quoted from the paper:

    This analysis is limited by relatively early follow-up. If dietary patterns affect mortality, they may do so with moderate effect sizes, via complex pathways, and with long latency periods. Early follow-up analysis may thus have bias toward the null, and true associations may remain undetected. Observed mortality benefits may be affected by factors related to the conscious lifestyle choice of a vegetarian diet other than dietary components. Potential for uncontrolled confounding remains. Dietary patterns may change over time, whereas the analysis relies on a single measurement of diet at baseline. Caution must be used in generalizing results to other populations in which attitudes, motivations, and applications of vegetarian dietary patterns may differ; dietary pattern definitions used may not reflect some common uses of these terms

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae 25 points ago in MurderedByWords

    In the very thing you linked:

    The vegan lifestyle requires careful attention. It can be hard to get enough of the vitamins and minerals found in animal products. You have to eat a balance of foods to avoid health risks. 

    Vegans need to pay close attention to labels. This applies to food and supplements [to avoid all animal products].

    So even the article says it takes more time, attention, and effort. And that was just from a generalized fluff piece, it wasn't even an in depth nutritional guide.

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae 1 points ago in MurderedByWords

    "You said its not easy and I said that it is and claimed myself as evidence, therefore I 'proved' you wrong."

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae 1 points ago in MurderedByWords

    This analysis is limited by relatively early follow-up. If dietary patterns affect mortality, they may do so with moderate effect sizes, via complex pathways, and with long latency periods. Early follow-up analysis may thus have bias toward the null, and true associations may remain undetected. Observed mortality benefits may be affected by factors related to the conscious lifestyle choice of a vegetarian diet other than dietary components. Potential for uncontrolled confounding remains. Dietary patterns may change over time, whereas the analysis relies on a single measurement of diet at baseline. Caution must be used in generalizing results to other populations in which attitudes, motivations, and applications of vegetarian dietary patterns may differ; dietary pattern definitions used may not reflect some common uses of these terms.

    I swear y'all never even bother to read in depth the things you cite.

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae 1 points ago in MurderedByWords

    However, caution should be exercised when interpreting the results, as other more complex social and environment factors could affect the results rather than being solely related to diet. For instance, vegans are more likely to be younger than the general population and therefore have much lower mortality rates. Similarly, vegans can be more likely to come from socially affluent backgrounds, which can also influence mortality risk.

    Literally right in the article that's your "first link of Google," that you obviously didn't even bother to read part the headline.

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae 7 points ago in MurderedByWords

    Thank you for being a perfect example of my point

    [–] You should study more BoinkBoinkEtAliae 18 points ago in MurderedByWords

    That is not a credible source, it's a corporation that runs it's own research and publishes it's own journal, and is heavily influenced by corporate and political interests.

    Do you have actual peer reviewed research from objective sources that supports your assertion?

    [–] Did anyone's parents actually do this? BoinkBoinkEtAliae 3 points ago in gatekeeping

    I'd hold them out the window, going a mile a minute blows them better than I ever could