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    [–] Happy late Father's Day everybody Spokker 1 points ago in MLBTheShow

    This thread is only for late fathers.

    [–] Based on inside edge today Spokker 1 points ago in MLBTheShow

    Oh look, my favorite player in all of baseball has +6 power to his 32 power.

    uses Gallo instead

    [–] Will public opinion be enough to stop the separation of families seeking amnesty at the border? Spokker 1 points ago in PoliticalDiscussion

    Your link didn't tell me what was actually in the bill.

    So I looked it up and the bill has no solutions. It essentially makes catch and release the policy of the United States. That's a non-starter. Democrats aren't serious about this.

    If they at least made it legal to detain families together, then we'd have a bill we could talk about. In fact, the bill says that detention is not in the best interests of families and children. A total, irredeemable open-borders bill.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/3036

    [–] Will public opinion be enough to stop the separation of families seeking amnesty at the border? Spokker 1 points ago in PoliticalDiscussion

    Republicans are AGAINST Trump on this. The GOP is starting to panic about the midterms.

    Bill O'Reilly is pleading with the president to stop this. Barbara Bush is calling him out. It would be very easy for a Republican congress, with the cooperation of Democrats, to do this. Trump will be at 30% approval before the month is over. The blue wave will be back to being an eventuality by August.

    Unless there's more to the story and this isn't just a manufactured media outrage like I know it is.

    And no, their parents used them as hostages, thinking they could dupe the United States into treating them differently than if they came as singles. Even the Obama administration understood this, which is why they tried to detain them together to begin with.

    [–] Will public opinion be enough to stop the separation of families seeking amnesty at the border? Spokker 1 points ago in PoliticalDiscussion

    he wants to use the suffering of children as a political bargaining chip to get his way with immigration legislation in Congress.

    Considering the public outcry, the imminent drop in Trump's approval ratings, the polling of the American public, the bipartisan outrage against Trump, audio of detainees being mistreated, it should be very easy for Congress to act with a veto-proof majority.

    Trump isn't going to budge. There's only so much time to blame him before people start asking, well, what are you going to do about it.

    [–] Will public opinion be enough to stop the separation of families seeking amnesty at the border? Spokker 1 points ago in PoliticalDiscussion

    You have to not be in removal proceedings. Removal proceedings commence once you receive the notice to appear.

    It goes without saying that 82% of asylum cases will be denied, especially if the applicant is not from a country known for persecution.

    Unless we expect a different result going forward, it's better for them to be detained before that initial determination than to allow them to take advantage of our generosity and disappear into the United States.

    There's a big difference between a political dissident from China and someone who generally feels unsafe living in Venezuela. Everybody would feel unsafe living in Venezuela.

    [–] Will public opinion be enough to stop the separation of families seeking amnesty at the border? Spokker 1 points ago in PoliticalDiscussion

    I agree that there is no law requiring families to be separated. I never claimed that.

    What I claimed is that the Obama admin decided to keep them detained together. When they were unable to keep doing that, they decided to release them. Trump decided to continue detaining them separately, because catch and release does not work. Like Obama, he wanted to deter illegals from entering the country.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/16/us/politics/family-separation-trump.html

    They (me: Obama administration) did, however, decide to vastly expand the detention of immigrant families, opening new facilities along the border where women and young children were held for long periods while they awaited a chance to have their cases processed.

    Mr. Johnson (me: Obama's secretary of homeland security) wrote an open letter to appear in Spanish-language news outlets warning parents that their children would be deported if they entered the United States illegally. He traveled to Guatemala to deliver the message in person. Opening a large family immigration detention facility in Dilley, Tex., he held a news conference to showcase what he called an “effective deterrent.”

    The steps led to just the kind of brutal images that Mr. Obama’s advisers feared: hundreds of young children, many dirty and some in tears, who were being held with their families in makeshift detention facilities.

    Immigrant advocacy groups denounced the policy, berating senior administration officials — some of whom were reduced to rueful apologies for a policy they said they could not justify — and telling Mr. Obama to his face during a meeting at the White House in late 2014 that he was turning his back on the most vulnerable people seeking refuge in the United States.

    ...

    Before long, the Obama administration would face legal challenges, and be forced to stop detaining families indefinitely. A federal judge in Washington ordered the administration in 2015 to stop detaining asylum-seeking Central American mothers and children in order to deter others from their region from coming into the United States.

    Under a 1997 consent decree known as the Flores settlement, unaccompanied children could be held in immigration detention for only a short period of time; in 2016, a federal judge ruled that the settlement applied to families as well, effectively requiring that they be released within 20 days. Many were released — some with GPS ankle bracelets to track their movements — and asked to return for a court date sometime in the future.

    [–] First stub sale this year Spokker 1 points ago in MLBTheShow

    You got all the deets.

    [–] Will public opinion be enough to stop the separation of families seeking amnesty at the border? Spokker 1 points ago in PoliticalDiscussion

    Yeah, but if we accept one Salvadorian or one Venezuelan asylum seeker, those standards would basically apply to everyone in that country. Shit is fucked up down there right now. Better to expect them to sort their country out. We cannot be a life boat for the world. We'll end up sinking us all.

    [–] I’ve never seen this one before Spokker 1 points ago in MLBTheShow

    Autistic girls are very good at this game. This subreddit is proof!

    [–] Will public opinion be enough to stop the separation of families seeking amnesty at the border? Spokker 1 points ago in PoliticalDiscussion

    According to DHS, proper asylum seeking families are not separated.

    I think there's a lot of conflation between those seeking asylum and those who were caught entering illegally. You CAN claim asylum at any time regardless of how you entered the United States, I've now learned, but can you claim asylum if you are caught first? I'm trying to find that out now.

    NBC News claims that families that have properly sought asylum were separated. However, there may be a disagreement between DHS and the media over whether they are bonafide asylum seekers. DHS says that those who cross illegally between ports of entry are not asylum seekers.

    [–] Will public opinion be enough to stop the separation of families seeking amnesty at the border? Spokker 1 points ago in PoliticalDiscussion

    Lobby congress to pass a law that allows families to be detained together. Because right now there's only two other options, 1) release families together or 2) break families up.

    [–] Will public opinion be enough to stop the separation of families seeking amnesty at the border? Spokker 1 points ago * (lasted edited 5 hours ago) in PoliticalDiscussion

    Sure, there are many numbers but I doubt it's as low as 13%.

    [–] Will public opinion be enough to stop the separation of families seeking amnesty at the border? Spokker 1 points ago in PoliticalDiscussion

    I know but the alternative would be to release the family into the U.S. pending court appearances. 30-40% do not show up based on historical data.

    [–] Will public opinion be enough to stop the separation of families seeking amnesty at the border? Spokker 1 points ago in PoliticalDiscussion

    in a July 10 hearing of the Senate Appropriations Committee -- which was held two days after Flake’s remarks on PBS -- Juan P. Osuna, the director of the Executive Office for Immigration Review, told the panel that his department estimates that 46 percent of children currently fail to show up for their date in court. He told lawmakers that any other numbers are "incorrect."

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jul/10/jeff-flake/sen-jeff-flake-says-90-percent-immigrants-given-co/