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    [–] Northern Rail Lines Seen As 'Valueless,' Leaked Emails Reveal grepnork 1 points ago in ukpolitics

    You were never going to be convinced of anything - your first link claims that HS2 is a conspiracy to help a city of ~250,000 people.

    If you want a decent discussion start with facts and an open mind. You have neither.

    [–] Northern Rail Lines Seen As 'Valueless,' Leaked Emails Reveal grepnork 1 points ago in ukpolitics

    Presumably you haven't actually read or understood the report, since you somehow believe it supports one of your fantasies.

    [–] Northern Rail Lines Seen As 'Valueless,' Leaked Emails Reveal grepnork -3 points ago in ukpolitics

    There is no point to your post beyond the masturbation of northern grievances and conspiracizing.

    [–] Northern Rail Lines Seen As 'Valueless,' Leaked Emails Reveal grepnork -4 points ago in ukpolitics

    There isn't a fact in any of your links, much less a word supported by objective reality in your post.

    Lets take this gem

    the WCML links all of those cities TO London

    You are, presumably, aware that railways operate in BOTH directions.

    Please stop making the world a dumber place.

    [–] Northern Rail Lines Seen As 'Valueless,' Leaked Emails Reveal grepnork -9 points ago in ukpolitics

    It's rude to call people ignorant for believing you are wrong, especially when they have clearly cited sources for their judgements

    It's rude to offer garbage conspiracizing publications as evidence to support your ignorant grievances.

    [–] Northern Rail Lines Seen As 'Valueless,' Leaked Emails Reveal grepnork -5 points ago * (lasted edited 10 hours ago) in ukpolitics

    The North is very much an afterthought when it comes to HS2: https://www.citymetric.com/transport/hs2-isnt-about-north-england-all-its-about-commuters-milton-keynes-1059

    You'd have to be staggeringly ignorant to believe this. The WHOLE POINT of HS2 to is to relieve the West Coast Mainline when it hits capacity (that is trains on tracks, not passengers on trains) in a decade or so. The WMCL links Birmingham (pop: 4,332,629), Liverpool (pop: 2,241,000), Manchester (pop: 2,856,000), and Glasgow (pop: 1,817,870) and London (8.5 million), but it's obviously a conspiracy to benefit the 250,000 people in Milton Keynes (/s because satire is dead).

    The electrification of Manchester to Preston was delayed by around 2 years. Of Preston to Blackpool, 2 years, and required all trains to Blackpool to be cancelled around 2 months (and yes - restarting those services was also delayed).

    Yeah, turns out the ground under the rail is full of unmapped mining tunnels.

    The fact is the North gets very low levels investment relative to what the South gets per capita, and those that it does get are polished turns. Even when ambitious proposals in the North have better cost-to-benefit ratios, it's always projects in the south which get more government funding for less return: https://www.tomforth.co.uk/investmentispolitical/

    This is total complete and utter chip on the shoulder garbage. It's cheaper to do things in the North for, among other reasons, a large chunk of the railway doesn't have to be encased in a tunnel under a major international city.

    [–] Ailing MP wheeled into Commons in pyjamas criticises Tory whips grepnork 1 points ago * (lasted edited 12 hours ago) in ukpolitics

    I read the whole thing, it demonstrates that you can't read and fail at basic comprehension of text.

    [–] Ailing MP wheeled into Commons in pyjamas criticises Tory whips grepnork 2 points ago in ukpolitics

    Naz Shah, the MP for Bradford West, said parliamentary voting procedures were archaic and undignified after the whips refused her request to be paired with a Tory MP to cancel out each other’s vote – a practice that allows MPs to be absent from parliament with good reason.

    They told her she would be allowed to stay in the car rather than haul herself into the chamber, and whips would come to the car park to count her vote. But the Tories insisted she attend not just the vote but the three-hour debate preceding it.

    Try actually reading the article before making it obvious you're clueless.

    [–] Northern Rail Lines Seen As 'Valueless,' Leaked Emails Reveal grepnork -3 points ago * (lasted edited 12 hours ago) in ukpolitics

    Mainly because all of those projects are actually underway and a number are complete - a number of those projects are a large part of the reason the Railplan 20/20 went so badly wrong.

    Just because some idiot said it in an email doesn't mean it's true.

    [–] Northern Rail Lines Seen As 'Valueless,' Leaked Emails Reveal grepnork 0 points ago in ukpolitics

    HS2, the Great North Rail Programme includes the Liverpool City Region Upgrade, Manchester to Preston Upgrade, Preston North - Blackpool North, Transpennine Upgrade, West Yorkshire Signalling upgrade, replacement of the Pacers with Class 230 D-Train and Czech made Civity CAF units, and the Ordsall Chord and Calder Valley updates.

    In addition to GNRP there is also the Edinburgh-Glasgow Improvement Programme, the new East West Rail link, and the Wales upgrade plan (re-signalling, electrification, new cross border links etc). Notwithstanding the nation's entire fleet of trans-national trains are being replaced with new Azuma units, and the East Coast mainline is being upgraded with new track, signalling, and banking to support higher speed travel.

    Oh, and then there's the major road building and refurbishment programme along with the successful regeneration of Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds and Sheffield city centres. In addition the opening of a new freight route from the south coast ports to the North.

    [–] A bad day for Grieve, the rebel Tory who forgot how to rebel grepnork 28 points ago * (lasted edited 14 hours ago) in ukpolitics

    Quick, labour didn't win the vote.

    Then explain the logic of this sentence given it's a mathematical impossibility for Labour to win a vote at all, never mind win a vote on an amendment they didn't even propose.

    Brexit is a war within the Tory party.

    [–] "Jaw-dropping" £300 billion negative swing in foreign investment flows since Brexit grepnork 38 points ago in unitedkingdom

    Except for wanting free trade deals around the world is the very opposite of that.

    We are asking for the benefits of our existing arrangements without the responsibilities.

    Brexiteers seem to expect to receive better terms as a nation of 64 million than as a bloc of 450 million.

    [–] The EU's Link Tax will be voted on in TWO DAYS: if passed, you won't be able to link to the news except on Big Tech's licensed platforms grepnork 2 points ago * (lasted edited a day ago) in ukpolitics

    You are doing very well to not answer the point.

    I answered the point, you just didn't understand the response.

    If your overall point was demonstrating how little you understand the subject at hand, then you're doing brilliantly.

    Google only makes money once you click. Your original post stated they make money from content. They dont. They make money by directing people to that content from the content producers. Google makes no money from people looking.

    Google offers PPI and PPC, Adsense Network, and also Display Advertising Services (the brand awareness bit I discuss above).

    Facebook, for example, very similar to google. They dont make money without directing you to the website. The only one in your list which is profiting from content directly is reddit. People post content and reddit puts additional adverts around it unrelated to the content.

    Facebook also do PPI, PPC, and Display Advertising Services.

    The only one in your list which is profiting from content directly is reddit.

    This simply isn't true.

    People post content and reddit puts additional adverts around it unrelated to the content.

    This also isn't true.

    [–] The EU's Link Tax will be voted on in TWO DAYS: if passed, you won't be able to link to the news except on Big Tech's licensed platforms grepnork 2 points ago * (lasted edited a day ago) in ukpolitics

    Again it isn't advertising per se. In the old world I would have run a campaign targeting young women and may also have been able to advertise in a magazine which had a more specific demographic niche like 'brides weekly', to follow the earlier example.

    In the electronic world micro-targeting is so specific that I can look for ~2,000 men who share the same broad brush set of qualities, and live in a specific area. I can then pitch content only to them.

    They only profit once they have directed someone to the publishers site.

    This is perhaps the greatest misunderstanding. No. I do not need you to do anything to be sold an idea, I don't even need you to read words. One of the bigger functions of advertising is to sell you a broad concepts and that is done by repetition.

    A practical example would be when searching for 'NAS drive' ensuring that your brand image results appear at the top of the screen, your products appear in Google's product carousel snippets and so on - repeat this often enough throughout a buying journey and it confers credibility on a brand or product - you trust Google after all. This kind of advertising is especially effective for distress purchases. No click required, Samsung don't care where you buy a washing machine, just that they're among your top two considerations (they're trying to build a brand in the sector).

    As with the banner headlines of Newspapers - they didn't need you to buy the paper to influence your view of an event, they just needed you to look at a newsstand.

    [–] The EU's Link Tax will be voted on in TWO DAYS: if passed, you won't be able to link to the news except on Big Tech's licensed platforms grepnork 1 points ago in ukpolitics

    What differentiates Google and Facebook from general advertising is that if you want to advertise to women aged 18 to 36 who recently got engaged and live in Sacramento then google can deliver you that segment.

    YOU are the product they sell to advertisers.

    [–] The EU's Link Tax will be voted on in TWO DAYS: if passed, you won't be able to link to the news except on Big Tech's licensed platforms grepnork 3 points ago in ukpolitics

    I usually am downvoted to hell, but then the thread is usually full of people who don't understand how the internet actually works.

    Personally I think finding a quality model that works for everyone is the most important thing for the health of journalism, and reddit getting over paywalls is the single healthiest thing for online discussion. The paywall bans in the default subs created openings for low quality media outlets that would otherwise have remained non-entities.

    Pornhub have just about the best model so far, the do share profits on pirated content with the creator, but only so long as the creator finds and claims the content.

    [–] Lord Nicholas Monson: Super-strength skunk killed my son, which is why I'm campaigning for cannabis to be legalised grepnork 2 points ago * (lasted edited 2 days ago) in ukpolitics

    Skunk is specifically a cross breed of Cannabis Sativa and Cannabis Indica, it can be high or low strength. The trouble is a lot of people add to the mix with LSD or Coke, so it can be anything really. The whole idea that 'skunk' or ‘super-skunk’ is a problem is a bit of a misnomer because it's not just weed that’s the issue.

    [–] The EU's Link Tax will be voted on in TWO DAYS: if passed, you won't be able to link to the news except on Big Tech's licensed platforms grepnork 6 points ago in ukpolitics

    Google is an advertising company with a search engine. 90% of it's profit is from advertising, and it's product is your eyeballs not adverts.

    Google is profiting from publishers content especially in Google News and in search advertising. Facebook, Reddit, Twitter and many other sites likewise. What the platforms have in common is they are not making a profit from content directly they're making a profit from eyeballs on whatever is posted and link sharing by users is a key part of bringing those eyeballs to bear.

    The assumption is that link sharing is a good thing for the content publisher because it drives traffic, traffic drives eyeballs and eyeballs bring advertising profit doesn't actually work. Why? People screenshot the stories, adblock, archive.is, don't bother to read and just discuss headlines and so on. Even worse there is no quality model in online advertising. A 6 month investigative piece from the NYT that cost $100k yields the same rewards as a listicle that took an intern 20 minutes to write. So the NYT loses $$$ of direct profits because it's expensive and thoroughly researched piece is screenshotted and posted on imgur and then that is linked to on Reddit and Twitter.

    This was ok in a world where the internet wasn't the only business, but now the direction of travel in terms of business and users is very clear.

    Equally outright piracy of content - even for jewellery designers, small publishers, camgirls/guys is also a serious issue. Pornhub runs on advertising and those profits often don't get split with the actual content generator because it's up to the content owner to find an identify their own pirated content.

    All of these things need to be addressed and will be addressed unless an alternative is proposed. The publishers and content generators have a legitimate point.

    [–] Should we trust London police (and therefore the Mayor’s/Home Office’s) claims on crime stats? grepnork 2 points ago in ukpolitics

    There are a host of reasons intra-country crime statistics are mostly nonsense but it depends on how granular you want to be. Almost all EU and European nations report national statistics in the same way so there is a useful comparison at a high level.

    When you start to boil it down to individual subtypes of crime then things get much harder to reconcile.

    What's most troubling about the statistics being so murky is that it undermines faith in a system that, for the most part, works very well when it has the right level of funding.

    [–] Should we trust London police (and therefore the Mayor’s/Home Office’s) claims on crime stats? grepnork 1 points ago * (lasted edited 2 days ago) in ukpolitics

    Depends on what you consider 'massaging' - you won't find rapes on males reported in the rape statistics, likewise you won't find rapes of females with an object under rape because it's only classifiable as serious sexual assault.

    Catalytic converter theft is a huge problem but it's not a vehicle crime.

    Breaking a vehicle window when nothing is taken is most often 'no crimed'. This is a problem because there is a wide swath of crimes where the victim is unwilling to report what was actually taken, and sometimes breaking vehicle windows is meant as a threat.

    The you have local crime statistics vs crime geolocated back to an area. e.g. a crime committed in Croydon and reported in Croydon appears in local crime statistics whereas a crime committed in Croydon and reported in Tottenham (think car stolen, phone stolen etc) won't appear in local statistics because it's recorded on a seperate database.

    Then there is 'no criming' - which is a valid and needed practice but one which is challenging to monitor, especially surrounding sex crimes.

    Neighbourhood watch committees are given sanitised stats by community officers than omit sex, fraud, and numerous other offenses.

    TL;DR: Crime stats are a mess, the national crime survey is useless nonsense and there are not enough people getting involved in their local ward panels and holding their local police to account.

    Source: Former chair of police neighbourhood ward panel.

    [–] Medical Cannabis use to be reviewed by Government grepnork 10 points ago in ukpolitics

    This smacks of a deeper plan - Hunt set her up yesterday, May made the appropriate noises and Javid comes in for the kill this afternoon. Thus their grasp of power is demonstrated and hers thwarted.