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    [–] No deal is better than a bad deal quick_justice 1 points ago in ukpolitics

    Why? When making a deal makes you loose more than not making a deal you don’t

    Undermining integrity of EU is very expensive, so they won’t. Just swallow the costs and move on

    That is, if you can afford it

    [–] No deal is better than a bad deal quick_justice 4 points ago in ukpolitics

    I guess it’s a problem with U.K. position - it believes a talk is serious when the other side makes concessions.

    EU isn’t in this business they needn’t be. However they outlined possible outcomes from get go, they gave U.K. time to decide and prepare, they even provided fudge to help with solving uks internal problems. Apparently it was all for nothing.

    [–] No deal is better than a bad deal quick_justice 6 points ago in ukpolitics

    There will be no transition period unless U.K. agrees on conditions of withdrawal agreement. Irish border question remains unsolved. So, 11th hr here we go.

    [–] No deal is better than a bad deal quick_justice 9 points ago in ukpolitics

    Exactly. UK’s only chance would be to crawl in and beg.

    Just like Greece.

    Sad is that U.K. was given a fair chance I must say. EU tried to really talk.

    [–] When electoral spending law is broken, why are the results still valid? quick_justice 0 points ago in ukpolitics

    You did. Vote for a party is endorsement of all its policies in the round. This is just false. Many elections were run under anyone but slogan.

    [–] Brexit: Ireland says no EU agreement 'without backstop' quick_justice 16 points ago in ukpolitics

    Because GFA doesn't contain any implementation details, it's declarative. It didn't need to have them either, as it relied on inter-EU cooperation.

    With this being gone, an agreement is needed that would explain how GTA should be upheld. Or otherwise GFA will be de-facto torn apart.

    [–] When electoral spending law is broken, why are the results still valid? quick_justice 1 points ago in ukpolitics

    You assume that because people voted for certain parties it can be directly projected on their position regarding Brexit, even more so, position that hasn't been influenced by fraudulent campaigns.

    It's a big one to make.

    [–] When electoral spending law is broken, why are the results still valid? quick_justice 2 points ago in ukpolitics

    Let's make it really simple. Since manifesto is a package you can only guess what policy made voters go one way or another. That's the end of it. Guesswork.

    [–] When electoral spending law is broken, why are the results still valid? quick_justice 2 points ago in ukpolitics

    It's not. For starters, it wasn't run on Brexit platfrom and there wasn't an alternative. UK is de-facto two-party system, and if you want to stick it to Tories you have to vote Labor, so manifestos of small parties don't matter much. And in any case, since it's not a single-issue thing, you can't say well they vote so and so because of brexit support. You just can't stretch you interpretation this way, it's an educated guess at best.

    More importantly, every public argument for Brexit, including the ones from right wing hardliners includes will of the people as justification. Well, that will was fraud. And there's literally no other solid argument.

    [–] When electoral spending law is broken, why are the results still valid? quick_justice 1 points ago in ukpolitics

    You are thinking in terms of legal process but really it’s just an old biblical thing, a fruit of the poisonous tree is also poisoned.

    With this regard if the referendum was a fraud than everything that was entailed was done on fraudulent foundation and out of fraudulent reasoning and can’t be used as such.

    In this particular case parties only ran on leave platform because of referendum and public votes for them because they felt they participate in democratic process while in fact they weren’t.

    [–] So what's the likelihood of hard brexit now? quick_justice 1 points ago in ukpolitics

    I'm that good, trust me. Put on a reminder or something

    [–] Wage growth slows despite jobless fall quick_justice -3 points ago in ukpolitics

    Not because of. As a result of. When you include the people who barely work an hour a week to inflate your employment figures.

    [–] So what's the likelihood of hard brexit now? quick_justice 1 points ago in ukpolitics

    I can assure you should UK make moves in the direction, the permission will be easily granted.

    [–] So what's the likelihood of hard brexit now? quick_justice 1 points ago in ukpolitics

    Someone’s gotta be! I’d assume head of foreign office.

    [–] So what's the likelihood of hard brexit now? quick_justice 1 points ago in ukpolitics

    They already said they would on numerous occasions.

    [–] So what's the likelihood of hard brexit now? quick_justice 0 points ago in ukpolitics

    These are technicalities. The deal is on the table